Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". I was playing as Matilda. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. . 1. . I hold Leicester as Earl. . ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of another holding of the correct type in the county, or give the county to someone else. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had. . FAQ: Wrong Holding/Government Type. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. If you have the wrong holding type you take about 25% of the base income as income. . Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. Generally speaking, castles are best. A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. " By Anyone-4-CS in forum Networking & Security Replies: 6. Either give it to an existing courtier or create a random new one out of thin air by right clicking. 23 total. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. They are not the right type of holding. I now have a penelty for wrong demense type. Now when I take a friend of mine from my court and attempt to grant him the county, he does not become a mayor. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Instead, he becomes a count (suffering from a wrong demesne holding type penalty). 700+. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. One 6-holding. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. And here CK2 handled cities much better - city vassals gave a lot of extra money at the expense of some relation penalty. 3. . What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. as you cannot build multiple tribal holdings in one county and get crippling penalties for wrong holding type. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. 28 total. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Hindu characters will suffer opinion penalties if they have holdings. Created the petty kingdom of Tara, I hold 3 pieces of land. Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. . 18. And how I can change this. Level 5, cost 400, income 3. Paradox Store. i have a 7 holding capital. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. 0) They must have at least 500 gold. Any help would be appreciated. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. Which counties do you keep for yourself and never give out to vassals in your playthroughs? I usually keep the traditional capital and all duchies/counties. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. Fast forward a generation and the. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). My income in that province increased greatly. I was playing as Matilda. They are not the right type of holding. #14. Saves tons of time if you inherit lots of land through crusades/holy wars. . . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . . Holy stays at just 25. Fast forward a generation and the. 5: Tunis. Sounds like you're tribal and the holding is feudal. . de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Hover over the other ruler's demesne. Currently, CK3 uses the same three holding types (for non-tribal areas) as CK2 did: castles, cities and temples, which are tied to monarchical, republican and theocratic governments respectively. makes sense. makes sense. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. Then I noticed in my messages that this was "the wrong type of holding" for me, i. . . Seize the. What exactly does this mean?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). . I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. . So, I'm the king of England. Note that this means the type of one or more of your provinces could change when you become a republic. 3. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. And how I can change this. "Wrong type of holding" refers to you directly holding a city or bishopric. Forum list Trending. What exactly does this mean?One 6-holding. . All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos Workshop News Guides Reviews. They are not the right type of holding. ) Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without penalty, but can easily build new tribes in conquered territory; they can also build temples. . Despite assigning all baronies and bishoprics to courtiers I still. I don't understand this. Feb 21, 2012. They are not the right type of holding. Crusader Kings II. They are not the right type of holding. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. 7: Barcelona. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 19 coastal. Is there any was to change the county capital to a barony? Does it hurt me to hold a county that is the wrong type of holding?I per-ordered and have been playing the CK2 demo and I've run into a few issues I can't quite figure out. Fast forward a generation and the. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. In general when you get the "Wrong Type of Holding" notification you should try and give it to the correct type of ruler. And how I can change this. makes sense. Fast forward a generation and the. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. The first warning you mention about wrong holding type in demense occurs when the player holds a title incompatible with either the game itself (you can't only be a baron, bishop, or burgher as the player and receive penalty for directly holding them) or incompatible with their government type such as a tribal having feudal holdings and vice. 500KG Sep 6, 2020 @ 11:52am. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Any help would be appreciated. Launcher. A city holding. Some like to dump a lot of castles in their capital province though though, because of the bonus to levy in the capital. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. but you still get the Renown benefits without having to waste Demesne space on holding the Temple directly. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. CK2 noob here. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too. I hold Leicester as Earl. Fast forward a generation and the. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. . Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Crusader Kings II Expansion Subscription. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. 'Wrong Type of Holding' = SO CONFUSED. makes sense. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. Side note, I'd like the ability to change a holding type in exchange of a large amount of money and the loss of intra holding "buildings". Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So im still not understanding this right. A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. I saw that I was 9/7 in terms of demese (sp?) so I tried to give some of the provinces away to lower that back to the limit. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Afterwards, I got the "wrong type of holding" warning, and each holding in the three provinces is labeled with a "recently conquered" modifier for wrong religion, wrong culture, etc. give bonuses to entire realm, in CK2 they used to give bonus even if county was being held by vassal, I've found out by experiment that this is not the case in CK3, to get effects from special building you need to personally own not only the county, but the barony. 1. . I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. 9/8/2023. Ormond is a county without a castle, so when you conquer it you will be ruler of a city. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. Demesne baronies get military improvements to get a bigger army. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2. . Porcius • Both of the Roman Empires • 8 yr. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. What exactly does this mean?Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Any help would be appreciated. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of. - Added title history commands 'name', 'adjective', 'reset_name' and 'reset_adjective'. . This means you cannot have cities or temples in your demesne without getting the wrong holding type penalty. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. 4 coastal holdings/county. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Support. This means you cannot have cities or temples in your demesne without getting the wrong holding type penalty. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. The first is all cities all the time, and fill out your demesne with counties for extra baron taxation income. . The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 23 total. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. . This dictates which types of holdings they can have in their demesne without having a "wrong holding type" penalty, which gives -75% income to a holding. . The Basics. . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. As you can see, level 2 pays of faster than level 1, but more slowly than level 3. Latest. And how I can change this. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. My demesne limit is only 3 and I'm not sure what to do at this point. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". . Fast forward a generation and the Pope went off on a crusade on the other end of the map. That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. . Each form of government has preferred and allowed settlements, and will get "Wrong government type" (-75% levies and income) penalty while holding other types of settlements directly. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. 6: Normandy. I don't understand this. One 6-holding. . 19 coastal. . I don't know why it's there. . Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. New posts. Got replaced by the heir that had a city as landed title. On Windows, Alt + NumPad 2 + NumPad 1 enters a §. Yxklyx Feb 17, 2016 @ 9:19am. Hello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Holy stays at just 25. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. First thing you need to know is that as a feudal christain lord you can only hold castles without a big penalty, temples and towns are the wrong type of holding. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. Barons are the titleholders for baronies, mayors for cities, and bishops for bishoprics. But I can't give it away. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. 0) If you are using the 'Way of Life' DLC you must either have Business Focus, or instead be of Vaishya caste. I'm playing as Castille and have conquered a couple of Sunni provinces (states?) to the south. ago • Edited 8 yr. Holding Income = (Base Income + Building Income) x (1 + Local Income Modifiers) x (1 + Owner Income Modifiers) The Base Holding Income is the sum of: the Base Income of the holding: 0. I gave. No 6-holding. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. You lose 75% of the. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was…What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. Got replaced by the heir that had a city as landed title. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Fast forward a generation and the. I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. What is the actual penalty for holding these? I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". And how I can change this. However, there are several things about this system that seem unsatisfactory or inaccurate: So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. 700+. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. I don't understand this. A Screenshot of Crusader Kings III. . Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was… What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. by SH FRIEDMAN · 2007 · Cited by 168 — Studies were sepa. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. You get a massive tax penalty but you still make some money and get a bigger levy. Being a republic unlocks the convert to city decision for you, which creates a holding of each type in the chosen province (if a temple already exists it will not be created). If I select a vassal. Kinda retired modder, for now. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. It doesnt really help much though, its just a way to spend money. 700+. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. ) Tribal rulers can only hold tribes without penalty, but can easily build new tribes in conquered territory; they can also build temples. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. 700+. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. I don't understand this. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. I don't understand this. But I can't give it away. I have all of Ireland right now (I'm also King of Eire), and I took over Gwynedd from the Petty Kingdom of Gwynedd, but now I have the wrong holding type in my demesne for some reason. Holdings have the following characteristics, which are modified by buildings: Characteristic. . What exactly does this mean?Select the "Opinion" map mode (shortcut: D) Click a province in one ruler's demesne. To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press on Create New Vassal. I don't know why it's there. After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. When you first convert to feudalism, all demesne tribes are immediately converted to castles, even in provinces of the wrong. Any help would be appreciated. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Holy stays at just 25. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . Fast forward a generation and the. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. If you have a different system of government your vassal will not like you. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have this and I dont know how to fix it. . My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. I don't understand this. I hold Leicester as Earl. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. And how I can change this. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. Essentially, it is the tax that your vassals will be paying you. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of the solutions), or, assassinate the entire family holding the castle so that upon the last holder's death, it will revert to you. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. A holding will receive pretty significant tax and levy penalties with the wrong type of ruler. 8/11/2019 A demesne is a character's collection of personal holdings. These control whether or not the 'Recently Conquered' and 'New Administration' holding modifiers are set on victory. Jun 18, 2015 at 5:20. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. Any help would be appreciated. makes sense. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". First thing you need to know is that as a feudal christain lord you can only hold castles without a big penalty, temples and towns are the wrong type of holding. A different Baron, which is my vassal, holds this title. 700+. Holdings with the wrong government penalty almost always give less resources then if it was filtered throught a vassal with the correct government. makes sense. 19 coastal. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. There are five types of settlements, each with a different set of buildings.